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Loki Seiguro · Apr 18, 2009, 02:07 AM // 02:07

go sin. yes flame away.......done now? Sins can solo (yes perma), and do need some strategy if you plan on actually playing it in pve and not just crit barrage.

boricuaguy · Apr 18, 2009, 02:39 AM // 02:39

Ehh sin i am tired of em, everytime i am in the game and i look around there are like at least 10 sins around me, its like warriors at the beginning of Guild wars. Also in my opinion Perma is a good way to farm, but kinda not interesting, and kinda newbish, just cuz u just spam the 3 skills and then use the other skills to kill the mobs. IDk thats just my opinion, i am looking into something more interesting, difficult/supportive/strategic and good for farming.

Qing Guang · Apr 18, 2009, 03:37 AM // 03:37

The other thing is that Assassins, aside from perma farm, have more or less one purpose in the game: killing a single target really really fast and getting the heck out of dodge. Thus, they're sort of a niche profession... and combined with the huge sin population, you have a problem of an enormous supply and very low demand. I've PUGged a lot in my day, and no group I've been in has ever been sin-hungry. I've run in groups that flat-out refused entry to sins, groups that accepted too many sins (because they were the only available people) and failed miserably (trying to do Tahnnakai Temple with 3 highly incompetent, wannabe tank sins, an idiot nuking ranger, a couple of decent eles, and two highly overworked monks = epic fail... although come to think of it I think we might have beaten it on the second try when the other monk and I threatened to cut off healing and prots to the dumbest of the sins), and groups in which the monk (or sometimes myself, when I was running resto) would have to go dominatrix on the sin to get him to cooperate. The problem is that sins are, IMO, more distinctly PvP-oriented, and they've developed a terrible name in PvE, so no one wants one.

Once again, being a healer = never being groupless where there are groups lfm. If a group sees a monk and someone from another prof asking to join, the monk pretty much automatically gets the spot unless a) they already have a couple monks or b) he's like level 10 or something.

Loki Seiguro · Apr 18, 2009, 05:11 AM // 05:11

TBH if you want to pve use heroes. If you micro them then they can be smarter than any real player you'll find. Considering you are quite intelligent yourself.

But yes sins are very common in pve and very unwanted. Thus the rise of crit barragers as they can pull their own weight and stay the f back so as not to die. As a monk myself I prefer not to play with sins too, yes very hypocritical of me, but most sins don't know how to play unless they have had some pvp experience with it. You'll notice that pvp players and pve players use different armor types. pve = radiants (even on wars) and pvp go with survivor and maybe some others.

As to the op: i'd go monk then but be prepared to be flamed if you don't play healing monk. Monks can also farm using 600 smite but just like permas its just spamming skills.

Qing Guang · Apr 18, 2009, 06:18 AM // 06:18

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Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro

As to the op: i'd go monk then but be prepared to be flamed if you don't play healing monk. Monks can also farm using 600 smite but just like permas its just spamming skills.

I don't know, I've never drawn flak over my running a bonder Monk. Got criticized once or twice for my Rit not being able to do Channeling, but those people shut up when I saved their lives several times over. It's true that smiting monks have drawn mockery, though.

On the 600/smite: Yes, like most farming builds, it's pretty much skillspam. You won't find many that aren't, unfortunately, because solo or duo farming relies almost entirely on gimmickry. I've made up a little Dervish build that is more like other full-party builds but can run in a 4-man, but really that kind of thing is uncommon as it's generally inferior.
Heck, if it's the button-mashing and not the lack of skill that really bugs you about that kind of thing, just run the bonder in a 600/smite. There, you don't even mash buttons. You pop your enchants on the guy, then sit back and relax while he does all the work. Oh, and you occasionally have to recast Spell Breaker, but that just means you have to actually be within a quick dashing range of your keyboard. I like to make my bed or read comics while I bond my Guild Leader's rit.

It's gimmicky, but it's fun, and it's a good guildie bonding activity if you do end up staying at the keyboard.

Verene · Apr 18, 2009, 06:34 AM // 06:34

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Originally Posted by boricuaguy

Well i mean, i have played all of em, but still cant decide. Cuz every profession has its pros and cons. For example the mesmers are good for one vs one fighting but don't have a lot of aoes. I also want to add that the classes that i like are the monks, necros, par, mes, ele's (eh idk used to like him, havent used him in a while, and rangers).

I have each character in my account lvl 20, but then again, i don't want to spend like a whole month or so doing a campaign, and then deciding to change profession and having to do it again... know what i mean? Thats why i am asking people to give me their opinions then i read them all over and decide.

No offense btw

, its just the way im looking to find an answer about which character to play.

BTW, i have seen dervishes doing 130, rit doing the Vengful was Kaenei or something like that. What can you tell me about em? Nd why are the paragons able to solo? cant we mix them with other profession to make them capable of farming?

Ty for your support ppl and i reallllly appreciate the help.

Dervishes do have the 130hp build, which I've used myself. I don't use it often because soloing is just tedious and annoying, but it does work quite well, so long as you pay attention to your enchantments and don't run into enemies that can strip them too much.

Apr 18, 2009, 02:07 AM // 02:07	#21
Loki Seiguro Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: IGN: Scarlet Test Ace Guild: We play Isketch in [HoH] Profession: E/	go sin. yes flame away.......done now? Sins can solo (yes perma), and do need some strategy if you plan on actually playing it in pve and not just crit barrage.

Apr 18, 2009, 02:39 AM // 02:39	#22
boricuaguy Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2007 Profession: W/R	Ehh sin i am tired of em, everytime i am in the game and i look around there are like at least 10 sins around me, its like warriors at the beginning of Guild wars. Also in my opinion Perma is a good way to farm, but kinda not interesting, and kinda newbish, just cuz u just spam the 3 skills and then use the other skills to kill the mobs. IDk thats just my opinion, i am looking into something more interesting, difficult/supportive/strategic and good for farming.

Apr 18, 2009, 03:37 AM // 03:37	#23
Qing Guang Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Guild: Lucid Spirits [LIFE] Profession: N/A	The other thing is that Assassins, aside from perma farm, have more or less one purpose in the game: killing a single target really really fast and getting the heck out of dodge. Thus, they're sort of a niche profession... and combined with the huge sin population, you have a problem of an enormous supply and very low demand. I've PUGged a lot in my day, and no group I've been in has ever been sin-hungry. I've run in groups that flat-out refused entry to sins, groups that accepted too many sins (because they were the only available people) and failed miserably (trying to do Tahnnakai Temple with 3 highly incompetent, wannabe tank sins, an idiot nuking ranger, a couple of decent eles, and two highly overworked monks = epic fail... although come to think of it I think we might have beaten it on the second try when the other monk and I threatened to cut off healing and prots to the dumbest of the sins), and groups in which the monk (or sometimes myself, when I was running resto) would have to go dominatrix on the sin to get him to cooperate. The problem is that sins are, IMO, more distinctly PvP-oriented, and they've developed a terrible name in PvE, so no one wants one. Once again, being a healer = never being groupless where there are groups lfm. If a group sees a monk and someone from another prof asking to join, the monk pretty much automatically gets the spot unless a) they already have a couple monks or b) he's like level 10 or something.

Apr 18, 2009, 05:11 AM // 05:11	#24
Loki Seiguro Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: IGN: Scarlet Test Ace Guild: We play Isketch in [HoH] Profession: E/	TBH if you want to pve use heroes. If you micro them then they can be smarter than any real player you'll find. Considering you are quite intelligent yourself. But yes sins are very common in pve and very unwanted. Thus the rise of crit barragers as they can pull their own weight and stay the f back so as not to die. As a monk myself I prefer not to play with sins too, yes very hypocritical of me, but most sins don't know how to play unless they have had some pvp experience with it. You'll notice that pvp players and pve players use different armor types. pve = radiants (even on wars) and pvp go with survivor and maybe some others. As to the op: i'd go monk then but be prepared to be flamed if you don't play healing monk. Monks can also farm using 600 smite but just like permas its just spamming skills.